Wife and husband team Joke and Biagio are best known in the unscripted world for executive producing "Scream Queens" on VH1, "Commercial Kings with Rhett and Link" on IFC (currently airing Friday Nights at 10pm 9 central) and the upcoming documentary series "Caged" on MTV. Other credits include "Beauty and the Geek" and "Oh Baby, Now What?" The duo earned their documentary wings under acclaimed filmmaker R.J. Cutler ("The War Room," "The September Issue") and honed their reality TV skills working with luminaries like Mark Burnett. Their company, Joke Productions, Inc., is growing fast. They blog and tweet about making film and TV at http://www.jokeandbiagio.com and @JokeAndBiagio. You can see their Kickstarter campaign for Dying to do Letterman, featuring Jon Reiss' book "Think Outside the Box Office" here: http://kck.st/r7rDZP
What is the current project you are working on?
Right now, we're bringing our six-year passion project, a feature-length documentary Dying to do Letterman, to the world. It's just been invited to compete for an Academy Award by the International Documentary Association at this year's prestigious program DocuWeeks. The movie's about stand-up comedian Steve Mazan, whose life-long dream was to perform comedy on David Letterman's show. However, his quest gets far more urgent when he's diagnosed with cancer and told he might only have 5 years to live. We self funded the film, and right now we're trying to raise $100,000 on Kickstarter to put the movie in theaters ourselves. We're at about $47,000 with a little over a month to go in the campaign. People can help bring the movie to a theater near them by joining our campaign here: http://kck.st/r7rDZP
Did you always want to be a filmmaker?
Biagio: No, I wanted to be an actor at first, but after a brief stint on Nickelodeon's Kenan and Kel (while still delivering pizzas for Pizza Hut as a main source of income!) I decided I wanted to be behind the camera.
Joke: I thought I would become the president of Flanders. Long story.
What inspired you to become filmmaker?
Biagio: I'd written a play that had won a Young Playwright's Festival in Cleveland and been produced. I wanted to make that play into a movie, and it all began there.
What is the best thing about being one?
Joke: Finishing a movie like Dying to do Letterman and seeing Steve's amazing story touch audience's everywhere.
What is the worst thing about being one?
Biagio: Wondering if it will be another six years until we finish our next film!
What is the estimated number of projects you have worked on?
Joke: Oi, a lot. Our first project together was a feature film called "Me and Grandma" based on Biagio's play. Next was a feature documentary we produced about the Star Wars phenomenon called "A Galaxy Far, Far Away" which had a small theatrical distribution. Our foray into unscripted television began with two pilots we made on our own (just the two of us.) We produced, shot, directed, edited, and did the graphics for two pilots we sent blindly to Food Network. One was a wacky cooking show called "Cooking with Beer" and it starred my parents! The other was a cooking / dating show called "Quickest Way to the Heart." Eventually we were able to break into unscripted TV. Some of our big shows were Beauty and the Geek and VH1's Scream Queens. All in all, I guess counting feature films, tv series, and pilots a little over 20.
Who is your favorite filmmaker?
Biagio: I plead the 5th.
Joke: Ditto.
How has your life changed since you became a filmmaker?
Biagio: We've met so many incredible people, and been to places we'd never dreamed we'd end up -- the jungles of Guatemala, the secret tunnels underneath Caesar's Palace in Vegas, the back room of a comedy club with Arsenio Hall and Jay Leno -- places we would never dream of seeing. Becoming a filmmaker has allowed us to experience life on a hyper-real level, and we're grateful for every moment of it.
What is one piece of advice you can give to someone who also wants to make it in the movie business?
Biagio: GO MAKE STUFF. We have an entire blog dedicated to breaking in to the business at http://www.jokeandbiagio.com We call it "Hands-On Producing." I don't care what your ideas are, I don't care what you are "thinking" about doing, I care about what you've done. Walk into my office and show me a kick ass piece of tape you've put together. Something you're so proud of you'd show it to Spileberg himself. Otherwise, don't waste anyone's time, especially your own. Too many "wannabes" talk about making movies. Aspiring filmmakers are not "wannabes." Aspiring filmmakers go make films.
Joke: Ditto.
What do you like to do besides filmmaking?
Biagio: Believe it or not, I was a star basketball player (in 8th grade, anyway!) I love to get out and shoot some hoops when I can. I've also been learning to program iPhone apps and mac apps, and hope one day to release some of them. We're also going to be self-publishing some books on the Kindle platform soon.
Joke: I love photography, traveling to small towns and discovering new places, and watching Battlestar Galactica.
Have you had any other jobs before you decided to become a filmmaker?
Biagio: Crazy jobs! I performed singing telegrams for Eastern Onion in Ohio, dressed up as Tweety Bird and the Talking Christmas Tree at the mall, Barney and the Green Power ranger at kids parties, washed dishes, bagged groceries, delivered pizzas, and once tried to sell cigars at a telemarketing gig that lasted 56 minutes. I also edited actor's demo reels out of our one bedroom apartment in Hollywood, and actually met Steve Mazan (subject of Dying to do Letterman) when he hired me to edit his comedy reel.
Joke: I was an assistant to Gale Anne Hurd (producer of Terminator, Armageddon, and AMC's The Walking Dead) and worked at a talent management group for a while. A little more tame than Biagio's work history.
What are some of your favorite American films? Foreign films? Television shows?
Biagio: American: Pulp Fiction, Tombstone, Raiders of the Lost Ark Foreign: Cinema Paradiso TV Shows: The Wire, Psych, Game of Thrones, season 1 of The Shield, Boston Med
Joke: American: Braveheart, Foreign: Daens (Flemish) TV Shows: Friday Night Lights, The Wire, Rome, The Good Wife, Hard Knocks
How would you describe your film education?
Biagio: Learn by doing. Period. Film school was basically useless. See http://www.jokeandbiagio.com
Joke: Varied.
How would you describe the film "scene" where you live?
Biagio: Well, we're lucky to live in Los Angeles, so they do make a few movies here. But to us, the film scene is really the internet: Twitter, Facebook, our blog, places like Kickstarter -- that's where the action happens, people are getting noticed, and we're making real relationships every single day.
How has social media changed the independent film industry?
Joke: Well, it's built a community of people who want to make movies no matter what, and could care less about traditional models. I think that's a good thing. More interesting projects are getting made, filmmakers are finding new audiences, and people are finding creative ways to network and get themselves noticed.
What's your opinion on crowdfunding?
Biagio: Well, clearly, we're all for it! We're in the middle of a great experiment, using Kickstarter to actually distribute our film. We're a few weeks in and have raised almost $47,000. We hope the community will come out and help us reach $100,000, which will allow us to follow the plan in Jon Reiss' book Think Outside the Box Office, and put the movie in theaters across the entire country.
What is the casting process like?
Joke: grueling, whether for a scripted film or a competition show like Scream Queens or Beauty and the Geek. You see thousands of people. So many are great. So few spots are available. And unless you're making an indie film where you get final say, you're casting by committee. There's between 10 and 20 people that need to sign off on a final cast. By the end, your drained, but hopefully you've found the best cast possible.
How does independent film differ from the mainstream?
Biagio: Upside: You get final say on everything. Downside: Everything's on your shoulders. A lot of indies tend to think less of the studio system -- but it's not without it's perks! Sometimes you just want to make a great project and not worry about marketing, legal, distribution, craft service, holding a boom pole yourself. Then again, nothing beats taking a project from the very beginning to the very end and knowing it's the truest manifestation of your original vision for the film.
You could go back in time and see any classic film being made. Which film would it be and why?
Biagio: Raiders of the Lost Ark. No movie has inspired my imagination more. Fight scenes, vintage airplanes, the wrath of God, and Harrison Ford stapled a hat to his head! Who wouldn't want to see that?
What's your favorite movie quote and why?
Joke: "You're gonna need a bigger boat." Sums up how you're never as prepared as you think you are -- especially in our line of work.
You could have any super power. What would it be?
Biagio: Convince Joke I'm always right.
What is your opinion on movie remakes?
Biagio: I'm all for them if they're good. Too many times the film is just "product" made to tap into a pre-existing audience. But give a remake to a real filmmaker and magic can happen. Look what Scorcsese did with "The Departed" (Based on Hong Kong crime-thriller 'Infernal Affairs') and "Cape Fear" (Based on J. Lee Thompson's thriller from 1962.) A remake can be great -- but it's up to someone to decide they're making a real movie. And don't forget John Carpenter's The Thing -- pretty good remake!
What is your opinion on book to movie adaptions?
Joke: same as movie remakes -- someone has to go in and make the book into a motion picture. We can name a hundred movies that were poorly adapted, but then you have filmmakers who make magic like A Clockwork Orange, The English Patient, and one of our favorites, L.A Confidential.
What are the pros and cons when it comes to working with your spouse?
Biagio: Pros -- with as hard as we work, we'd never get to see each other unless we worked together, and I simply couldn't function without seeing Joke for most of my waking life.
Cons: Every time I see how awesome Joke is it reminds me I married out of my league.
Joke: Pros -- My parents worked together, my grandparents worked together -- I never knew anything else. For me, there's nothing better than sharing my life and dreams with Biagio knowing everything we do we do together.
Cons: It can be hard to get out of "work mode" -- we're always working. When we go to bed at night, get up in the morning, have lunch or dinner, the conversation is usually work related. It's important to remember to take time for us.
Is there anything else you would like to add?
Biagio: We're so grateful to the community for supporting our Kickstarter project in such a big way. No matter when you read this article, please head on over to http://kck.st/r7rDZP. Even if you think the campaign might have ended, it hasn't. We're trusting the community to help us put Dying to do Letterman in theaters, and anyone will always be able to donate at least $1, whether at Kickstarter, or another site we'll set up. Whatever the deal, we'll let you know at the Kickstarter page.
Thanks for doing the interview. I will spread the word about your campaign for Dying to do Letterman. On a side note: I heard Joke does a really good impression of a Cylon. I'm a big fan of BSG as well.
Thursday, July 28, 2011
Actress/Writer Shannon Carter
This fiery redhead is no stranger to the film scene. With acting credits such as "The Social Network", "Bride Wars", "Surrogates", "The Invention of Lying", and "What's Your Number" this actress is a starlet on the rise! Since an early age, Shannon has shown a strong passion for acting. She began mimicking films and TV commericals at the tenger age of three. Throughout her childhood, whenever aske...d what she wanted to be when she grew up, she would reply with the same answer "an actress"!
Her first acting gig came when she was just in high school. She auditioned for the play "Bus Stop" that was being put on by a local community theater. It was her first audition and not only did she get the part but she was the first to be cast! By far the youngest cast member, Shannon was able to learn the ropes and seek advice from her adult co-stars. After "Bus Stop" she then starred in two student films, "The Keeping" and "Still" where she played the female lead in both. Soon after, the film industry in Boston exploded. Shannon was getting work left and right on major Hollywood films. She was specifically sought out to be cast in the "Social Network" as a final club girl and as the Renaissance Bride in "What's Your Number". Some of the actors and directors Shannon has worked with include Anne Hathaway, Kate Hudson, Jesse Eisenberg, Jennifer Garner, Anna Faris, Chris Evans, Ricky Gervais, Kevin James, the late Gary Warnick and David Fincher.
In 2008 Shannon teamed up with director Jessica Cook and her independent film company Astropiano Films. Cook cast her as the lead in her debut film "Sunblocked" which Shannon would ultimately produce and head marketing and promotions. Shannon joined Cook and the rest of the cast and crew on the red carpet for its Harvard Square premiere. The film was a success with premiere tickets selling out in less than two weeks. That spring "Sunblocked" embarked on a New England tour showing at venues such as UNH, The Historic Hawthorne Hotel in Salem, Ma, and Connecticut College. The film is now prepping for film festivals. Currently, Shannon is producing a new film for Astropiano Films titled "Mark of the Dog Rose" which she will also star in.
Not only a talented actress, Shannon is also a gifted writer. She wrote the screenplay for "Mark of the Dog Rose" in less than two months in what would take most writers a year. In her spare time Shannon does a little modeling, haven struck poses for photographers and companies including Sarah Borten of "My Big Hair Day" , wedding dress designer Michael McDonald, and the Frances Ray Jules Salon to name a few. For "Bride Wars" Shannon appeared alongside Anne Hathaway and Kate Hudson in numerous major magazines including People and Entertainment Weekly, as well as newspapers including The New York Times, USA Today and the Boston Globe. With a budding career on the rise, this young actress is on her way to Hollywood stardom
What is the current project you are working on?
"Mark of the Dog Rose"
Did you always want to be a filmmaker/actress?
Yes, I have wanted to be an actress for as long as I can remember. Since I was three-years-old, I would mimic TV commercials and movies.
What inspired you to become filmmaker/actress?
I think what really inspired me were movies in general. I love movies! I get so lost in the story plot and wish I was there. Actors can go places and do things in films that you can't do in real life. It's like magic. I also had a love for the camera growing up (laughing). I pretty much dominate the family home movies.
What is the best thing about being one?
Seeing yourself on the big screen! Its surreal! Also, just being on set and having fun with everyone.
What is the worst thing about being one?
Acting is fun, but it's a lot of work too. I don't think people realize how much work really goes into making a film. A thirty second scene can take 12 hours to film, its exhausting.
What is the estimated number of projects you have worked on?
I have worked on 8 full-length feature films, but about 15 film projects in total.
Who is is your favorite filmmaker?
Oh gosh, I don't think I really have a favorite. I definitely like Peter Jackson and Tim Burton. I think they both have such beautiful and creative methods for directing and when you watch their films you know they directed it.
How has your life changed since you became a filmmaker/actress?
I have gained so much experience and still cannot believe some of the big names I have worked with. It's pretty cool when someone mentions a famous actor or director and I can say "oh yeah I worked with him/her". I was also recognized a couple of times for being in "Bride Wars" and the "Social Network", which I was totally taken aback by.
What is one piece of advice you can give to someone who also wants to make it in the movie business?
Don't give up or be discouraged, just keep at it!
What do you like to do besides filmmaking/acting?
I love reading! There is nothing more relaxing than snuggling up with a good book. I'm also a big fan of traveling and have been to a bunch of really cool places. My favorite was London. I really enjoy writing too and cannot believe my first screenplay "Mark of the Dog Rose" is going to be brought to life.
Have you had any other jobs before you decided to become a filmmaker/actress?
Oh yes and I still do. Saddly, it takes quite a bit of time and luck to be able to reach the point where you can do filmmaking as your full-time job.
What are some of your favorite American films? Foreign films? Television shows?
I have so many favorite films it's really hard to name just a few. For TV shows I love Dexter, Law & Order SVU, True Blood and Family Guy.
How would you describe your film education?
When I was in high school I took a few acting classes on weekends in Boston, but I think most of my education really came from first hand experience being on sets.
How would you describe the film "scene" where you live?
Boston has come a long way and is really coming into its own as major film community. Not only do we have numerous Hollywood productions being filmed here, but we have a fantastic indie film scene. There is a lot of talent here and I think it is only a matter of time before the rest of the world takes notice.
How has social media changed the independent film industry?
Social media makes it so much easier to promote your projects. It's free and has the potential to reach a wide market. I am on Facebook ten times a day working on film related stuff and I know other fimmakers who are too. I personally don't really use Twitter but I know filmmakers/actors who are on there quite often promoting their work.
What's your opinion on crowdfunding?
I think it is a great method for fundraising. We got a good chunk of our budget from Kickstrater in addition to our fundraiser we held back in the spring. Ask any filmmaker and they will tell how important fundraising is. Movies cost a lot of money and no matter how much you raise you can always use more. Crowdfuning sites are great because aside from promoting, they are really a low maintenance way to raise funds and filmmakers usually have enough on their plate with pre-production work so its a huge help!
What is the casting process like?
Every audition is different. Usually you will be given some lines and you act them out for a table of casting directors and a camera. For "Surrogates" we worked with one of the stunt coordinators for the film. They had mats all over the floors and auditioned us in small groups. It was really fun.
How does independent film differ from the mainstream?
The biggest difference is that independent films usually have very small budgets. They work with little to no money and to be able to make a film on that is an amazing accomplishment. I also think indie filmmakers aren't afraid to take risks, because they aren't worrying if their film will top the box office.
You could go back in time and see any classic film being made. Which film would it be and why?
The Wizard of Oz. It was one of my favorite movies growing up. The set was beautiful and the costumes amazing.
What's your favorite movie quote and why?
I love Joan Cusacs' monologue at the end of "The Adams Family Values". It was awesome! I have used it for a couple of auditions before.
What is your opinion on movie remakes and sequels?
I hate remakes for the most part, because I feel that a lot of Hollywood filmmakers will try to go for shock value or just sign on a big name instead of focusing on making it a good unique film. They almost never do the original film justice. Sequels can go either way. Some sequels are awful and unnecessary, but others turn out better than the first film.
What is your opinion on book to movie adaptions?
If the director does it right and sticks to the book than I am a huge fan. I love reading and there are so many times where I find myself saying "This should be a movie". Most of my favorite films where books before they were films.
Is there anything else you would like to add?
Thank you John for taking the time to interview us! Please check out the "Mark of the Dog Rose" Facebook page and I actually now have an actress Facebook page as well (www.facebook.com/shannoncarteractress). You can also follow "Mark of the Dog Rose" on Twitter. Thank you!
Filmmaker Christopher Grimes
Christopher Grimes and Leigh Cavich-Grimes started 5414 Productions in 2008 with the goal of building a small, independent production company focused exclusively on documentaries that deal with complex issues in public policy from both a macro and micro perspective. 5414 Productions is co-located in Chicago and Washington D.C.
With experience in both government and politics as well as a Master's degree in Public Policy & Administration from Northwestern University, Christopher brings a unique set of real world and research skills to his directorial debut, A Second Knock at the Door, 5414 Productions' first feature-length documentary.
What is the current project you are working on?
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A couple of months ago we completed our production company's first feature-length documentary, "A Second Knock at the Door." I have been working on ASKATD for over two years and it tells the story of military families dealing with the loss of loved ones to friendly fire. This documentary explores several key incidents in which the families of the fallen were forced to embark on a quest for the truth after the Army attempted to bury the true cause of death within the "fog of war."
For ASKATD we travelled the United States talking with the families of soldiers killed by friendly fire, military experts at the US Army War College, and members of the press including Barton Gellman, Contributing Editor at Large of Time magazine. The documentary is going to premiere at Vegas CineFest this August and then we plan on having a robust screening schedule across the United States this fall and winter.
Did you always want to be a filmmaker?
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I have always been fascinated with the complexity and relationship of public policy, government, and the general public. While I did participate in some filmmaking endeavors (screenwriting & producing) in my early 20s, I ultimately decided to focus on teaching political science and history at community colleges and working on political campaigns. It did not take me long to realize what I most enjoyed about teaching was making public policy, through the use of real world examples, interesting to 18 year olds. Ultimately that discovery lead me back to documentary filmmaking. At the end of the day, a good doc is bringing public policy to life for a much broader audience and if I kept 18 year olds interested for two+ hours, I figured I had the ability to make a decent film.
What inspired you to become filmmaker?
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Basically two people. The first was Joe Reno. He has been involved in the filmmaking game for 20+ years and encouraged me in the early 2000s to join him on a few projects and then ultimately helped convince me to take on the challenge of turning a Master's thesis on friendly fire into a feature-length documentary. Joe is a Producer on ASKATD and has always been available for advice, opinions, and support right from the beginning of the process.
The second is Charles Ferguson, director of both "No End in Sight" and "Inside Job." While I have never met Mr. Ferguson, I loved both of his documentaries and respect his journey from professor to director. When I saw the outstanding job he did with "No End in Sight," it gave me the confidence to take on the same challenge. While I would never compare myself to him, he is producing work that not only inspires, but also convinces me that the public is interested in complex examinations of topics related to public policy.
What is the best thing about being one?
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The creative process. A film is self-contained. You basically see the whole path of life from birth until the end when you take on the challenge of making a film. At the beginning of the process, I think you have certain expectations of where you will end, but you really have no idea. This is especially true with documentaries. You will get certain people that will agree to sit down with you and you will be disappointed that some will not. Some interviews will go well and some will not. Ultimately, all of these things mean you are forced to be flexible and more importantly creative. I really enjoy that part of the process. We are just beginning the research into a new project and it is so exciting to start down a road in which we have now idea were where we will end up.
What is the worst thing about being one?
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You may hear this a lot, but the hardest thing for me is raising the money for a project. Most of our projects require a good bit of travel and that can get expensive, but I think if you really believe in a project and people are convinced that you will see it through to the end, it really is not as hard as people may think.
In terms of making a documentary, money can never be the excuse for NOT getting in the game. You may not be able to travel the country for interviews, but interesting people and topics are all around you. Everyone has a story to tell, so find a topic with a local flavor, put an ad in Craigslist for a person with a decent camera that is looking for experience (thus will work for free), set up some interviews, and start making a documentary. Everything will probably go wrong the first time, but who cares, you are learning the process and the next one will be the big break!
In the new world of crowding funding (We raised over $6000 for post-production expenses on ASKATD), you have even more tools to get you where you want to be. As an example, check out the crowd-funding campaign that our collaborating partners on ASKATD, Julie Keck and Jessica King (www.kingisafink.com) & Phil Holbrook came up with for their movie, Tilt, on Kickstarter. People will support good projects with creative crowd-funding campaigns, so get started.
What is one piece of advice you can give to someone who also wants to make it in the movie business?
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Collaboration. When you get in a room with people that you trust and who also believe in the project, it can be an amazing experience. It is not easy to agree on cutting locations, interviews, or early in the process, whole concepts/ideas, but when you decide to collaborate with other filmmakers you are explicitly trusting their judgement (and they are trusting you) over the course of the process. As much as you may love an interview, if the rest of the team doesn't really agree, it is probably in your best interests to make the cut. If you are not willing to trust their judgement then either you are not a very good collaborator or you are working with the wrong people.
What are some of your favorite American films? Foreign films? Television shows?
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Since I have been watching a lot of documentaries the past few years…outside of David Simon's superb work on The Wire and Treme, these are my favorites: Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, No End in Sight, When the Levees Broke, Inside Job, Murderball, Capturing the Friedmans, Man on Wire, The Trials of Darryl Hunt, The Fog of War, Lake of Fire, and Spellbound.
How has social media changed the independent film industry?
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I have a lot of friends involved in independent filmmaking and a few simply refuse to get in the social media game. I think that it a huge mistake! Almost any successful career is built on connections and I think this is particularly true with independent films. In the past, I am not sure that there really existed a "place" where one could find people independent filmmakers across the country. Social media, and Twitter in particular, has totally changed the dynamics of independent filmmaking. I think some people fail to realize that connections can move way beyond tweeting each other. We were introduced to our collaborators on ASKATD, Jessica King and Julie Keck of King is a Fink, on twitter around October of 2010 and in less then a month we are all traveling to Las Vegas for the world premiere of the film! This was a real, durable, and fantastic connection that ultimately made ASKATD a much better film. Get involved! It is well worth the time and effort.
What's your favorite movie quote and why?
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"I coulda been a contender." - On the Waterfront (1954) The only way to live without regret is to take your shot. If you want to be a filmmaker then make a damn film. In my mind it is the only way to really learn the process.
Thanks Chris for doing the interview. I will be sure to spread the word about your film "A Second Knock at the Door."
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